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		<title>By: Jina Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, I think I pinned a lot on your comment because yours was wonderfully challenging alternative view, which I&#039;m really glad to have.  But I slapped on you specifically a general response to some other less civil replies I&#039;ve gotten, and I&#039;m sorry for that.  

So let me move my objection to this comment aimed generally at the other end of cyberspace, and not at Nick specifically.  I&#039;m happy to have a lot of debate about all the issues, but I&#039;m not going to engage a line of conversation that requires me to justify my relationships with my friends.  By affirming the veracity of the story, and by blogging about what it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/11/kigali-grenade/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;feels like&lt;/a&gt; in town when grenades go off, I think I&#039;ve said all that will benefit anyone on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I think I pinned a lot on your comment because yours was wonderfully challenging alternative view, which I'm really glad to have.  But I slapped on you specifically a general response to some other less civil replies I've gotten, and I'm sorry for that.  </p>
<p>So let me move my objection to this comment aimed generally at the other end of cyberspace, and not at Nick specifically.  I'm happy to have a lot of debate about all the issues, but I'm not going to engage a line of conversation that requires me to justify my relationships with my friends.  By affirming the veracity of the story, and by blogging about what it <a href="http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/11/kigali-grenade/" rel="nofollow">feels like</a> in town when grenades go off, I think I've said all that will benefit anyone on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jina Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Nick.  You&#039;re right that it&#039;s the job of news orgs to filter out what we don&#039;t need to know, and a lot of this stuff doesn&#039;t make the cut.  I don&#039;t know that the grenade attacks in Kigali make the Topeka-thinks-it&#039;s-important cut.  I&#039;m saying the standard for that cut shouldn&#039;t be &quot;Well is anyone dead?&quot;  One dead in a grenade attack doesn&#039;t suddenly interest a Topekan, or anyone else, I&#039;m guessing.  There are better standards, and we should be advocating that our work gets in -- or get shut out -- for a good reason.

I think the wires reported on this because they were all there, and if everyone has a grenade and Reuters, for example, doesn&#039;t, Reuters looks bad.  There&#039;s as great article in Harper&#039;s Mag, April 2006, by Bryan Mealer, AP&#039;s guy in Kinshasa: He and the Reuters guy are having lunch and there&#039;s a firefight or something, a lot of people dead.  They&#039;re already worn down by all the death around them.  They look at each other, and the Reuters guy says, &quot;I won&#039;t file if you don&#039;t.&quot;  So they sit and have a chance to eat their lunch.  (Read it, it&#039;s a great story, a brilliant piece that mediates on just the tension I&#039;m pointing out in this post.)  There were grenades no reported on, the journalists weren&#039;t here.  Point:  A pack of journalists can easily, and unintentionally, distort an event --- both its relative importance (this was kinda just another grenade in Kigali) and the news judgment behind it.

Nick Kristof does not need white heroic protagonists to make Africa &quot;relevant&quot; to Americans, and I believe it condescends to Americans to think so.  There are enough other journalists producing good work that manages to seem relevant to Americans to suggest this, too; but I&#039;ve said all I have to say on this subject already. 

And on the snark:  Yeah, we did.  I have quite a few friends here, and my friend has both friends and colleagues.  For two people who have 5 years of time and several different jobs with locals between them, that&#039;s not really so many people.  (Now I&#039;m gonna worry about who we forgot.)  How many people did other locals call?  I don&#039;t know, I didn&#039;t poll them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Nick.  You're right that it's the job of news orgs to filter out what we don't need to know, and a lot of this stuff doesn't make the cut.  I don't know that the grenade attacks in Kigali make the Topeka-thinks-it's-important cut.  I'm saying the standard for that cut shouldn't be "Well is anyone dead?"  One dead in a grenade attack doesn't suddenly interest a Topekan, or anyone else, I'm guessing.  There are better standards, and we should be advocating that our work gets in -- or get shut out -- for a good reason.</p>
<p>I think the wires reported on this because they were all there, and if everyone has a grenade and Reuters, for example, doesn't, Reuters looks bad.  There's as great article in Harper's Mag, April 2006, by Bryan Mealer, AP's guy in Kinshasa: He and the Reuters guy are having lunch and there's a firefight or something, a lot of people dead.  They're already worn down by all the death around them.  They look at each other, and the Reuters guy says, "I won't file if you don't."  So they sit and have a chance to eat their lunch.  (Read it, it's a great story, a brilliant piece that mediates on just the tension I'm pointing out in this post.)  There were grenades no reported on, the journalists weren't here.  Point:  A pack of journalists can easily, and unintentionally, distort an event --- both its relative importance (this was kinda just another grenade in Kigali) and the news judgment behind it.</p>
<p>Nick Kristof does not need white heroic protagonists to make Africa "relevant" to Americans, and I believe it condescends to Americans to think so.  There are enough other journalists producing good work that manages to seem relevant to Americans to suggest this, too; but I've said all I have to say on this subject already. </p>
<p>And on the snark:  Yeah, we did.  I have quite a few friends here, and my friend has both friends and colleagues.  For two people who have 5 years of time and several different jobs with locals between them, that's not really so many people.  (Now I'm gonna worry about who we forgot.)  How many people did other locals call?  I don't know, I didn't poll them...</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re unfair to the freelancer -- and to editors. How many Rwandans noticed when someone gunned down four people in Buffalo a few days ago? Probably only a very few. And there&#039;s not necessarily anything wrong with that. The killings, while tragic, were not particularly relevant to Rwandan readers. Why should someone in Topeka care about grenade attacks in Kigali that killed a couple of people?

In fact, your post shows how well the western media actually function. As you note, Reuters, CNN, AP, Al Jazeera and AFP all reported on the grenade attack. That&#039;s an extraordinary amount of coverage, and shows to me that editors at major news organizations DO care about what happens in Rwanda. 

That&#039;s why I just don&#039;t get all the Nick Kristof animosity. He is doing just what you demand that other journalists do -- telling people that stories like Rwanda&#039;s are important. He knows that the only way to get Americans to read his work is by finding a way to make it relevant to them. A Rwandan columnist writing about the United States would probably do the same thing.

As an aside, on the melodrama accusation: you and your friend really called 50-60 people to check if they were OK? Not to be too snarky, but how many locals called that many friends to check up on them? I bet not many. It seems like Rwandans cared a lot less about what happened in their city than you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you're unfair to the freelancer -- and to editors. How many Rwandans noticed when someone gunned down four people in Buffalo a few days ago? Probably only a very few. And there's not necessarily anything wrong with that. The killings, while tragic, were not particularly relevant to Rwandan readers. Why should someone in Topeka care about grenade attacks in Kigali that killed a couple of people?</p>
<p>In fact, your post shows how well the western media actually function. As you note, Reuters, CNN, AP, Al Jazeera and AFP all reported on the grenade attack. That's an extraordinary amount of coverage, and shows to me that editors at major news organizations DO care about what happens in Rwanda. </p>
<p>That's why I just don't get all the Nick Kristof animosity. He is doing just what you demand that other journalists do -- telling people that stories like Rwanda's are important. He knows that the only way to get Americans to read his work is by finding a way to make it relevant to them. A Rwandan columnist writing about the United States would probably do the same thing.</p>
<p>As an aside, on the melodrama accusation: you and your friend really called 50-60 people to check if they were OK? Not to be too snarky, but how many locals called that many friends to check up on them? I bet not many. It seems like Rwandans cared a lot less about what happened in their city than you did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jina Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1304</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha!  i forgot about ambulance chasing, the phrase, since j-school...

you&#039;re right, lots of different options.  sometimes i think it helps to think about the strengths of another choice and the weaknesses of my own -- what can my non-chasing benefit from in chasing-behavior?  sometimes you get better.  sometimes there aren&#039;t lessons that cross paths... i guess the key is constant vigilance, no matter what we do.  or maybe that just reflects my view of, like, morality. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha!  i forgot about ambulance chasing, the phrase, since j-school...</p>
<p>you're right, lots of different options.  sometimes i think it helps to think about the strengths of another choice and the weaknesses of my own -- what can my non-chasing benefit from in chasing-behavior?  sometimes you get better.  sometimes there aren't lessons that cross paths... i guess the key is constant vigilance, no matter what we do.  or maybe that just reflects my view of, like, morality. <img src='http://www.jinamoore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jina Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1302</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;ll always be finding our place, eh?  But I feel that way everywhere in the world... and I feel privileged to try here!  Not to preach at you; something about your comment just reminded me how lucky we are to be able to be here, know these people, get to know this land...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we'll always be finding our place, eh?  But I feel that way everywhere in the world... and I feel privileged to try here!  Not to preach at you; something about your comment just reminded me how lucky we are to be able to be here, know these people, get to know this land...</p>
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		<title>By: christine</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1300</link>
		<dc:creator>christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stumbled across your aggregate of news items while trying to find out what happened Weds night... I&#039;m a local resident over 3 months too, more integrated with Rwandese than muzungu and yet still finding my place... and I loved both your posts here.  They were great.  Honest, raw, and fascinating... and as a peer and a writer also, I just really dug it.  

Coffee?  Bourbon?  Simba? (I call it the locals&#039; Bourbon).

Murazkoze
Christine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stumbled across your aggregate of news items while trying to find out what happened Weds night... I'm a local resident over 3 months too, more integrated with Rwandese than muzungu and yet still finding my place... and I loved both your posts here.  They were great.  Honest, raw, and fascinating... and as a peer and a writer also, I just really dug it.  </p>
<p>Coffee?  Bourbon?  Simba? (I call it the locals' Bourbon).</p>
<p>Murazkoze<br />
Christine</p>
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		<title>By: Jina Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>Jina Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Victoria.  Please come back and share your link about the referendum!  All ears!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Victoria.  Please come back and share your link about the referendum!  All ears!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scarlett Lion</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarlett Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 16:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PUBLISH!

First of all, we read your blog for YOU. Or at least I do. Your insights. Your impressions. Your thoughts. Your reactions. You. This is not the NYT, this is your blog. And I for one want to know what you&#039;re experiencing, and not just because you&#039;re a dear friend, but because you&#039;re a person with insight, sensitivity, understanding, and intelligence. I think the fact that you are differentiating between a first person memoir like impression and looking for a White Doctor Savior so your audience can CONNECT means that you aren&#039;t doing the latter.

The thing I like about not being just on the news cycle (and not being a video journalist) is not having to chase ambulances. There are other options within the realm of journalism, and the freelancer has chosen his just as we have chosen ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PUBLISH!</p>
<p>First of all, we read your blog for YOU. Or at least I do. Your insights. Your impressions. Your thoughts. Your reactions. You. This is not the NYT, this is your blog. And I for one want to know what you're experiencing, and not just because you're a dear friend, but because you're a person with insight, sensitivity, understanding, and intelligence. I think the fact that you are differentiating between a first person memoir like impression and looking for a White Doctor Savior so your audience can CONNECT means that you aren't doing the latter.</p>
<p>The thing I like about not being just on the news cycle (and not being a video journalist) is not having to chase ambulances. There are other options within the realm of journalism, and the freelancer has chosen his just as we have chosen ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To echo the other commentators, I thought it was a great piece. Living long-term in a foreign country one seems to always be in between - by most standards you are a local but there are always things you are excluded from, both good and bad. 

I think part of the reason I found the piece so interesting is because it resonated with my own feelings as of recent (I live in Nairobi and had similar feelings about the recent referendum). It even inspired me to write a post for my own blog about that in between (not yet posted but to come soon).

Just wanted to give feedback on this piece in particular.

Best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To echo the other commentators, I thought it was a great piece. Living long-term in a foreign country one seems to always be in between - by most standards you are a local but there are always things you are excluded from, both good and bad. </p>
<p>I think part of the reason I found the piece so interesting is because it resonated with my own feelings as of recent (I live in Nairobi and had similar feelings about the recent referendum). It even inspired me to write a post for my own blog about that in between (not yet posted but to come soon).</p>
<p>Just wanted to give feedback on this piece in particular.</p>
<p>Best.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.jinamoore.com/2010/08/12/kigali-grenade-journalist-choices/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked your reflection &amp; agree with Murph -- sometimes all we can write honestly is what we ourselves see and think and feel.  Moreover, everyone&#039;s story is worth telling if it&#039;s done honestly --

The (vast, wide, huge) difference with your reflection and what Kristof does is that Kristof MAKES STUFF UP -- the details, he changes and warps them to make them sound more appealing to his audience.  That&#039;s what bothers me the most -- if he didn&#039;t warp details, he wouldn&#039;t have the rest of the problems -- the bad policy ideas, the &quot;white savior&quot; tenancies.  He makes junk up, believing that its worth it for the endgame of tugging heartstrings.  You just wrote honestly about your feelings/thoughts in a specific moment in time -- that&#039;s valuable, in my opinion.  

And those two styles of writing are nothing alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked your reflection &amp; agree with Murph -- sometimes all we can write honestly is what we ourselves see and think and feel.  Moreover, everyone's story is worth telling if it's done honestly --</p>
<p>The (vast, wide, huge) difference with your reflection and what Kristof does is that Kristof MAKES STUFF UP -- the details, he changes and warps them to make them sound more appealing to his audience.  That's what bothers me the most -- if he didn't warp details, he wouldn't have the rest of the problems -- the bad policy ideas, the "white savior" tenancies.  He makes junk up, believing that its worth it for the endgame of tugging heartstrings.  You just wrote honestly about your feelings/thoughts in a specific moment in time -- that's valuable, in my opinion.  </p>
<p>And those two styles of writing are nothing alike.</p>
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